Possible scam
I’ve found a seller selling an item I’ve been following at a very low price; this seller only has one supposedly positive rating, and the photos are the same as this other seller’s, who looks quite a bit more trustworthy.
How does eBay act in these cases, and if you fall for one of these possible scams, what chances are there of getting your money back?
21 comments
alberto-15
·2 years agoNo eBay washes its hands; at best, on some occasion they give you your money back, but the best thing is to go to Consumer Affairs or file a complaint with the EU and have them fined. That's how they treat us, but it's our own fault for trusting them
redoxoniano
·3 years agoI’m just popping in (it’s been a while since I’ve done this) to tell you that a forum buddy in common will be out for a little while.
roman-style
·3 years agoSorry, I know what it means, best wishes.😣
albertgonzale_19
·3 years agoCouldn’t it be that he unsubscribed himself?
flaco_86
OP3 years agoThat could also be, but if that’s how it was, I very much doubt he ever managed to collect a single euro.
roman-style
·3 years agoThe Chinese guy doesn’t go through with the whole setup without being sure he’ll get paid something, let me try to explain myself.
Act one:
Ebay requires a bank account number to be provided in order to sell, no problem I open an account with 10 euros, I consider it an investment.
Act two:
Ebay uses a microdeposit to find out the bank details, the only and sole verification of vital importance by ebay.
Act three:
To gain my victims’ trust I register as a company, since ebay does not carry out the proper checks, in fact, it does not ask me for and also does not force me to publish VAT Number and Companies Registry registration number.
Act four:
I post the sale of dozens of drills in bulk, even though I only have one vote and I opened my account last month, once this could only be done with a minimum number of transactions as a seller, I think the minimum had to be 10, and by the way not with an account opened a month ago.
Act five:
The sales start, I quickly contact the buyers and say to make the payment to ANOTHER account, NOT to the account ebay communicates to them, and besides why not trust a PROFESSIONAL CHINESE seller who sends me FREE a set of TWO cordless drills for the price of 35 euros.
Act six:
If any buyer has paid right away into the fictitious account that ebay communicated to them, there’s no problem, the drills arrive from China, to receive them time is needed, at least a month, to open an issue, if ebay blocks the account with some payments made, it will mean that I’ll leave part of the money for the opportunity it gave me.
flaco_86
OP3 years agoI wish eBay a great future, by the way the Chinese guy had been a member since 2020, although "suspiciously" he only had 1 sale
roman-style
·3 years agoHi,
In this one I didn’t notice that he had been a member since 2020; I noticed only the single vote he got from a month ago, which was very likely fake, and that in any case he should not have been allowed to sell dozens of items in bulk.
Best,
roman-style
·3 years agoRegistered as a professional seller 50 votes
64.7% positive votes
20 negative votes in the last month only.
Specialized in selling iPhone 14 ……sold more than 30.
Another professional.... it seems that, given the low percentage of positive votes and the high percentage of negative votes...... ebay is finding out the reason for this poor sales performance by a professional.
They have stopped his sales, but the account is still active.
It seems that to analyze the issue a review by a senior executive from the fraud department is requested, before deleting his account.
flaco_86
OP3 years agoI know for a fact that eBay is refunding the money (to whoever claims it); now what I don’t know is whether the Chinese guy is going to end up getting anything and who takes the hit is eBay.
roman-style
·3 years agoI'm happy for you.
The Chinese guy from the fake account that was reported for selling can't withdraw anything; he profits from the payments he managed to divert.
The house never loses, it always wins.
It never loses, because there is an obligation to report the bank account where the money can be received in order to sell.
That same obligation also includes permission for the house to manage the seller's account, that is, the house can step in to deposit the money from sales or withdraw it in a case like this, the account holder seller is simply a passive subject.
It always wins, because not all those scammed claim the money, many don't know how to do it, and the house doesn't make it easy either, the difficulty of claiming it and the renunciation of some of those scammed is where the house wins.
The money that remains unclaimed is at the disposal of the Delegated Administrator.
Regards.
redoxoniano
·3 years agoI just saw this, I’m not sure if what this user says is possible.
"System failure alert, there is a scammer operating on ebay, they send you the product with a false address and no phone number, it won’t be possible to deliver it to you and the shipment goes back to him, who keeps the money and the product, when you turn to ebay, he sends information showing that the transport company tried to deliver the package but couldn’t and ebay sides with him and you don’t get refunded, when you leave a negative review, he will appeal and ebay will remove it, which will allow him to keep scamming, this seller is XXXXXX"
roman-style
·3 years agoImpossible to figure out, the post has been cut down.
Many users still don't know that accusing a PSEUDONYM = NICKNAME isn't allowed.
Accusing a pseudonym, or a nickname, is like taking the mask off the masked man.
WIKIPEDIA: PSEUDONYM = FALSE NAME.
WIKIPEDIA: NICKNAME = a person's designation used as an alternative to their TRUE NAME.
Who is taking the mask off whom?
Because whoever accuses a pseudonym is also using a pseudonym themselves.
This is like the classic chicken-and-egg dilemma.🙄
roman-style
·3 years agoThe Chinese seller is no longer registered………after a swift verification action by the ebay anti-fraud rapid response team……..too bad they only located him after he had made 23 scam sales.
flaco_86
OP3 years agoMaybe the fact that you reported the ad influenced it
roman-style
·3 years agoThe Chinese seller ships the drill for free, sells it at the same shipping cost as the Californian seller, so basically he's giving it away.
eBay has acted, it has already deleted the Chinese guy's nickname from your post, but not his account, the Chinese seller is still "selling".
flaco_86
OP3 years agoYeah, this policy is really great, the one that "protects" the user whether they're an honest seller or a scammer. And let's not even talk about the poor buyer who falls for this scam and has to figure out how to deal with making a claim, with how "easy" eBay makes claims.
roman-style
·3 years agoThe Chinese seller has registered as a company.
On another page much stricter for selling as a company, in addition to a long series of official documents that prove you are really a company, it requires a video link for facial recognition to carry out a biometric verification of the seller's face.
It sounds like science fiction, but it's the reality, all to avoid scams with fake profiles created expressly to scam.
Regards.
flaco_86
OP3 years agoThis is the first time I've used the eBay forum (I've been a member since 2006) and this is more censored than public television.... What freedom of speech, then they come with opinion polls and ask for explanations for the responses....🤦🤦
albertgonzale_19
·3 years agoIf you try to reply in the User Help forum, you'll see that you can't.
roman-style
·3 years agoAn effective setup used as a trap for help requests, the flood of requests looks a lot like a swarm of flies, putting an attractive title like "help from Community Mentors" where only Mentors with the ebay T-shirt can reply, has been a brilliant idea😎………….we have to admit it.🤔